A few questions for my good PRO-WAR buddies...

[DonMarco]

patriot, floyd, outandup and so on...

what's up guys ?

long time no hear so i just wanted to ask you a few questions...

1. any wmd found yet ?

2. any proof that iraq was involved in Sept.11 ?

3. any good from Iraq invasion ?

4. stil think losing this many lives (on both american and iraqui side) is justified ?

5. stil refuse to accept that your president is a mad man and his cabinet is a bunch of liars ?

Thanks guys...

 

[wilheim]

Hey Don, how are you? Not a lot, (but some) noise coming from that camp of late. Perhaps your brief, but to the point questions will spark a flurry of posts from our right wing compatriots.

Best of luck, wil.

 

[Oceans11]

Good stuff to come out of the war.

Getting the UN sanctions lifted, which will help ordinary Iraqis a lot.

 

[DonMarco]

will. doing fine, thanks. hope you are doing well too.

eek. i don't think the iraquis live any better now. why the uprising if the lifting of sanctions improved their lives.

where are my good ole pro-war buddies ?

 

[FloydGondolli]

Your final question makes it quite obvious that nothing will change your position so I won't waste my time responding to an extreme ideologue such as you.

 

[BoratSagdiyev]

Those are some questions the person "in charge " should be answering. I can't beleive how someone who went to the best schools in America can be such a bad public speaker? We used to have an extracuricular activity called forensics in high school. It was basically public speaking. Can't GW spit out a single freakin sentence in a coherent and concise manner without seeming like a total buffoon? Maybe we should stick to strictly electing former actors for president since the president is merely a figurhead anyway. what do you think guys? I'm moving to Montreal.

 

[PatPatriot]

If nothing else it broke up the criminal enterprise that was going on by the UN...Easy for the UN pygamies to have their criminal scam going on while the US and Brits use their military to keep Saddam in check.

Europe will get theirs for being two faced and stabbing the US in the back and honestly I can't wait.

 

[DonMarco]

Patriot...whats up my PR0-WAR buddy ?

How come you blame UN for anything now ? I don't think UN was spying on USA or England. I don't think UN was reporting about WMD's in Iraq. What did they do wrong ? They were telling the truth since day 1, and USA and GB were lying.

And by the way, could it be that you have no answer on any of my questions ? Are you waking up from your PRO-WAR dreams ? Are you finally realizing that you were fooled ? If so, don't worry, it's not a bad thing to get fooled once. But make sure not to be that stupid again in the future !

 

[DonMarco]

Sorry Floyd but I said here that my opinions would change if the US gvt proves me wrong in any of my points that I've presented here long time ago. Once they find WMD, or Iraqis invlovement in 9/11 attacks, or once they prove that the life in Iraq is better after Saddam, I will apologize to everyone here. But none of that has been done, and day by day we learn more about the lies coming from the USA most powerfull people. So, can I assume that you agree that you were wrong on four of my questions, but that you will stil vote for Bush despite his lies and mad man actions ?

 

[PatPatriot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I don't think UN was reporting about WMD's in Iraq. What did they do wrong ? They were telling the truth since day 1, and USA and GB were lying.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
What the fxck do you think the UN were having inspections for???What were the 17 resolutions for??
The thing that I am pissed off at is the lack of plan after the regime change...and the PC war that is being conducted to apease the appeasers....What they should of done to Fallujah and the like is turn it into a grease spot...and then take out the nuclear plants in Iran....Like Bush has said from the begining this has a long way to go, and like Condi Rice said terrorism will not be wiped out during the Bush administration.
9/11 is a cultural problem that extends through that whole region.
Spain is already finding out that you will never win by appeasment.

 

[DonMarco]

Patriot...the inspectors did their job. The USA and GB decided to ignore their reports and to attack Iraq regardless. Remember my friend, if USA decide not to leave Iraq, this will be a second Vietnam. Maybe even worse. If you believe the Arabs will give up, then you know nothing about them. And as for Spain, althaugh I feel sorry for what the innocent people had to go through, the Spanish gvt. got what they deserved for going into a foreign country and killing innocent people there for Oil's sake.

 

[PatPatriot]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>killing innocent people there for Oil's sake. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

THE ONLY ONES THAT HAVE CAUSED DEATHS SO FAR BECAUSE OF OIL,IS THE FREEDOM MOOCHING EUROPEANS AND THOSE SCUMBAG FXCKING FLEA BAG CUTTHROAT LYING THIEVING COCKSUCKING,BLOODSUCKING,OIL FOR FOOD FXCKING PYGAMYS IN THE UN...MOTHERFXCKERS, THEY'LL GET THEIRS AND I CAN"T WAIT... TURNCOAT PIGS!

 

[DonMarco]

Wow Patriot, why the frustration ? You guys wanted the war, you got it. And by the way, on which planet do you live little fella ? I don't think even CNN will agree with you on this one. Now you blame the Europeans and the UN ? Why, because they didn't want to support you ? Heck, I remember you as one of the guys here who was for this war regardless what the rest of the world or the UN have to say. Medication time kid.

 

[UncleMoneybags]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>1. any wmd found yet ?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No

I know if I was informed that territory under my control was to be searched, I would damn sure hide whatever they wanted to find. They may have destroyed those weapons years ago, I don't know. They had no proof that they performed such actions so it becomes a matter of trust. Unfortuneately, under Saddam, that was non-existent.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> 2. any proof that iraq was involved in Sept.11 ? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Only speculation

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> 3. any good from Iraq invasion ? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What looks good in my eyes might not be pleasing to yours.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> 4. stil think losing this many lives (on both american and iraqui side) is justified ?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

My stance has always been to take stronger actions against Iraqi holdouts. I don't think the U.S. should shoulder all the blame for the deaths of civilians. If you would also include the insurgents in that statement you might purvey a sense of objectivity.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> 5. stil refuse to accept that your president is a mad man and his cabinet is a bunch of liars ?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I don't think he's a mad man but at the same time I'd rather see someone else as President just not Kerry. I toyed with the prospect of Nader but I thought about it and I couldn't get past his stances on two issues. I even donated my free time to collect signatures so he could be on the ballot in one of the states in which I work.

Oh well! I'll go with the devil I know instead of the one I don't.

 

[UncleMoneybags]

Borat,

I think you went to the same lying school as my ex-girlfriend. You both are terrible at it.

 

[DonMarco]

Uncle...

I don't say you are wrong...Maybe the WMD have been destroyed or hidden. It is definately a possibility. But, here is something that makes me wonder about such a possibility. Everyone knows how powerfull the satelites are. And everyone knows that US have been taking satelite images of every yard of Iraqi territory for years now. When the inspection reports came to the UN, USA and GB said that they don't believe in it, because they have the satelite shots of Saddams WMD facilites and that they knew where those facilities were. So, if they knew then, they for sure could have tracked every possible Iraqi try to hide or destroy them. They came into Iraq, they have been there for a long time now, and stil nothing has been found. I think they need more time. Maybe one day they will find something.

As for the "good" coming as a result of the ocupation, feel free to post your thaughts. I have no problem with people having different views. As for me, I can tell you what i see or feel. And I don't see any hapiness in Iraq, not even after the capture of Hussein. It is not only the Suniits who participate in this uprise. The Shiits are actually even louder. And the Kurds are silent because they do not want the confrontation with the Americans. They want their own country and they are waiting for a good moment to fullfil their dreams.

I do think that this many human lives is just too much for no other reason than Oil. Once they finf the WMD or the Iraqi implications in 9/11 attacks, I will say, well I was wrong. Those Iraqis deserved the US retaliation. But until then, I blame the American administration for every dead man, every destroyed city.

OK, maybe he is not a mad man, but a liar he is. I guess we can agree on this one easily.

Have a nice day sir.

 

[BoratSagdiyev]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Uncle Moneybags:
Borat,

I think you went to the same lying school as my ex-girlfriend. You both are terrible at it.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

and which one would that be?